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if wi want tu spel da wey wi spik d'en a fyew chenjez nid tu bi meid in d' wey wi wrait. 
they dont hav tu bi d' particular chanjez faund in this pasij.  Ther ar meny olternativz.
Most americanz du not know hwat alfabetical speling wd bi laik.
It wd bi just laik the pronunciation gaid in d' dicSneri.
The diacritics can bi remuvd tu meik it simplr.  This wd asociat ich letr with twu saundz.

hu wot wer wen wai    hwu hwot hwer hwen hwai   whu what wher when whai - someone though wh looked better than hw.  Ignored the phonics.
hu uot uer uen hwai - this works but it looks very funny.

iz ther a wey tu wrait english foneticaly?  Yes, ther ar a variety ov weiz and moast ar iqualy consistent.  Som ar hardr tu ri'd    it yur bits   iit yur biits.
I waz traying tu faind a consistent wey tu drop the dabl vowelz from belou the loo.     below the lao     broak bro'k  smoak 
wi simply du not niid mor than twu orthografic options per optnz pr pronunciation.   tia chia or tsia in portuguese.  geese=guese? 
mispronunciation is rampant.     a.t a't 

bi.t the bit
hi hi.t da bol
d'a bol a.ut ov d'a bo'l     o  a.wt 

Gus,

You asked me what I thought of your Iqliz notation.  I think you are on target.

Or to paraphrase Prof. Higgins, "By George, I think you've got it!"

My recommendation is that you keep your various schemes and proposals separate.

Let's focus initially on the phonemic spelling of English.

Instead of what you sent me earlier, give me the Gettysberg address in Iqliz.

For scor 'n sevn yirz ago, aur forfathrz...
Check out the sounds of English
saunds-eng.htm

The other ideas need to be documented but not combined. The first initiative is to find some people willing to use the new code.

Ian Ascott has another set of abbreviations for common phrases which are quite ingenious.  I have given him the same advise.  Keep it separate.

It is very hard for some people to pick up complex ideas and adding another feature such as simplified grammar adds to the complexity.

I have run into the same problem myself with my ideas on spelling pronunciation.  The SAXON augmented Latin code, which is basically what you have, provides a way to restore the alphabet and to pronounce TES/TO words as they are spelled.

two = t+uu+aw.   Which may be how it was originally pronounced.
w as the sound in hook is preserved in Welsh. 

twu could be the revised spelling since it is closer to how we pronounce the word today  [tuu-oo] it also preserves the connection to twin.

I think that spelling pronunciation would help children learn to read and write.  The only problem is that it tends to be almost as complex as the English writing system.  To date, no one has picked up on the idea and it may detract from the understanding of SAXON SPanglic - or English written in a modified and augmented Spanish/Latin orthography.

The innovation in SPanglic is to allow no more than two related sounds to be associated with each letter, including those letters in combination.  Diphtongs must be broken down into blended individual letter sounds. 

These conditions eliminate about 90% of the existing reform proposals.
This is probably why few people have been willing to accept them.

Our proposal is to use EY as the sound in they.  Most of the other proposals want to change THEY to THAY or THAE. 

I don't quite understand your use of the word CLARIFIED.
bit biyt  are the checked and the free or extended form of the same sound.
The sound in bit always has to be followed [or checked] by a consonant. 

A marker is needed because we distinguish between mit and meet.
The issue is what kind of marker to use.  IPA uses mit and mi:t, 
Sweet [and you] used mit and miyt.   Drs. Mitrevski and Kelley use mit and miit.

The only problem with this is that no marker is necessary at the end of a syllable or word, because only a free vowel can be located in this position.

mi  not mi: or miy.

Therefore it makes more sense to mark the checked vowel.  To use a shortener or condenser mark rather than an extender mark. 

In Spanglish, I use a grave accent.  In ASCII I could use an apostrophe before the letter or a period after it.  The period actually works better.

mi.t mit   si.t  sit  rather than mit miyt and sit siit.  This is a little counter-intuitive because we have no mark that shows that the checked vowels are glued to the trailing consonant. 

A=AH should be the number one sound in English because it is associated with so many related sounds.  It is open and central which means that it can be used for ae, uh, schwa, the short o, awe, and out. 

The Ozi pronunciation of DAYrhymes with DIE  " Som dayz ai thingk 'I cwd dai."

Does alphabeticalorder make any sense?  If it does no one has been able to find it.
The order was first devised so the letter could do double duty as numbers.
a=1, b=2, g>=3, d (delta, daleth)=4  See numbers as sound signs
 

Engish		Sound	Associate
b  bi or beh		b	p and v
c		k	s and ch
d		hak /hahk/	as in sofa
hawk, walk		hok, wok	as in wok
haul, all, awl		hol, ol, ol	as in cost, lost
hole whole elbow		houl houl elbo	haw-ool
silo buy low		sailo bai lo	silo would be see-low
beau, gazibo		bo gazibo	same as bow but clipped
sailor		seilor	seh-ee-lor
hack /haek/		hak /ha:k/	/ae/ sound unavailable
lew eggo		luego	In Sp. ue sounds like way

haul would be pro
To associate A with /ek/ really messes up things. 

A.  concise and more precise
B.  reduce learning time by 1000%
C.  simplify spelling, meik it izi'r [iyziyr?] tu ges d'a corect speling.
D.  reduce word length and speed writing and typing
E.  reduce sentence length and reduce printing costs
F.  etc.

Regards,

Steve
 
 
 

On Tue, 19 Sep 2000 08:34:22 
 Gus [gush@gte.net] wrote:
    To summarize, the critical areas to be solved by any improvement are the following: 
 Aid comprehension by: A. be precise, B. cause 'easy' words 
 Cut memorization by: C. limit vocabulary, D. spell as sounded 
 Cut space/time by: E. be concise, F. shorten words 
 Aid universality by: G. limit 'hard' sounds, H. simplify grammar 
 Aid acceptance by: I. ease native (English speakers) use, J. ease new learners 
 Phonemic spelling is the first step to most shorthands.
 

 I compare ten different approaches: 
 USA English, as differentiated from British &/or the following 
 Basic English, as espoused by Ogden (with his 850 words) 
 Nue Speling, with its heavy use of digraphs [long vowels] 
 ABC as typed, a shorthand typical of many versions 
 Compressed, as you saw in my last e-mail 
 Condensed, whereby extraneous words are left out (used by engineers) 
 Altered, a further reduction by simplified rewriting, such as you saw 
 Eglsh, which simply leaves out vowels (other than initial) & non-sounded consonants 
 Iqliz 1, a phonemic way of writing, using standard English grammar 
 Iqliz 2, a semi-phonemic means, using simplified grammar 
     Their ratings I find, turn out to be the following: 
 USA (& British English) is bad in J and not that good in the rest 
 Basic English is bad in A, E, H & I, but terrific in B and C, and no better than USA in F & G 
 Nue Speling is bad in B, C, F, G & I, but pretty good in D, the rest as USA 
 ABC as typed is bad in D & I, but terrific in F, the rest as USA 
 Compressed is as USA, but better in F & I 
 Condensed is better in most categories than USA 
 Altered is much better in all categories than USA, and terrific in A, B & E (as you saw) 
 Egsh is no worse than USA, but terrific in F & I 
 Iqliz 1 is mostly better than USA, terrific in D & G 
 Iqliz 2 is definitely better than all the above, especially terrific in B, C, G, H & J 
 (These are detailed in an Exhibit in the chapter you were to receive.) 
     The alphabet used by both Iqliz versions is as follows: 
 A  a  as in 'art' or clarified 'ae' as in 'aerial' or 'ay' as in 'aye' or 'aw' as in 'aweigh' 
 B  b  as in 'be' 
 C  c  as in 'can' 
 D  d  as in 'day' or clarified 'dh' for 'th' in 'they' 
 E  e  as in 'den' or clarified 'ey' as in 'they' 
 F  f  as in 'for' 
 G  g  as in 'go' 
 H  h  as in 'have' 
 I  i  as in 'it' or clarified 'iy' as in 'riyal' 
 J  j  as in 'job' 
 K  k  as in (Swedish) 'kina' or 'ch' in 'china' 
 L  l  as in 'low' 
 M  m  as in 'may' 
 N  n  as in 'no' 
 O  o  as in 'orb' or clarified 'ow' as in 'owe' or 'oy' as in 'oyster' 
 P p as in 'poor' 
 Q  q  as 'ng' in 'bang' or clarified 'qc' as in 'bank' or 'qg' as in 'bangle' 
 R  r  as in 'row' 
 S  s  as in noun 'use' or clarified 'ss' for 'z' sound in verb 'use' 
 T  t  as in 'taught' or clarified 'th' as in 'thought' 
 U  u  as in 'put' or clarified 'yu' as in 'yurt' (or for 'u' in 'pure') or 'uw' for 'u' in 'jute' or 'yuw' for 'u' in 'butte' 
 V  v  as in 'vow' 
 W  w as in 'will' or clarified 'hw' for 'wh' in 'while'   [hwail]
 X  x  not used for Iqliz 1, but = negative for Iqliz 2 (no, nor, not, xeb'l = unable, etc)  Ian uses n for the negative.   nebl

 Y  y  as in 'yes' [also used as a semi-vowel extender in iy and ey]
 Z  z  as in 'sure' or clarified 'zz' for 'z' in 'azure'  [New Follick uses 5 for Sh, Unigraf uses a the capital S for sh],  shyur = 5yur, Syur
motion = mo'S'n, mOSN

 "  '  as in 'a' & 'e' in 'earn', 'i' in 'irk', 'o' in 'color', 'u' in 'urn'     URN='rn
 greater than sign: > = pluralty, < = possesion, - = past tense for Iqliz 2 
 [  ]  = quotations 

     As the goal of Iqliz is to cut down the 40 some odd sounds of English as well as making it phonemic, using only one letter per sound or similar sounds, and just keys on the
 standard American keyboard, the following justifications are made for just using the above 25 letters of the alphabet: 
     The letter 'a' as used in the word 'art' is universally used so (those using the Roman alphabet). The 'ae' sound (spelled so in 'Old English') in the word 'aerial' or 'ask' is
 sometimes changed with the latter word pronounced 'ahsk' in Old and New England. The 'ay' of the word 'aye' or the first part of the word 'aisle' ('ai') is usually pronounced as
 in the word 'I', but is pronounced as 'ah' by many American southerners (without the 'ee' at the end). The sound 'aw' as in 'aweigh' or as the 'ou' sound in the word 'out' with the
 latter being pronounced 'aht' by many Americans (without the 'w' sound before the 't'). Therefore (in my eyes at any rate) the letter 'a' can be justifiedly be used by itself for those
 various sounds, as an 'ah' sound - and be still understood by most users. 
     The letter 'c' is used in many more words for the 'k' sound than the letter 'k' itself, and therefore far more worthy of 'carrying its flag' and representing that sound. (And also
 therefore more consistent with standard English spelling.) 
     The letters 'th' as used (but which really should have been 'dh' for 'dhe' instead of 'the') and supposedly pronounced in the word 'the' and words similar, are actually
 pronounced 'd' for a 'duh' pronunciation by many New Yorkers - thereby justifying 'd' for the sound's denotation (at least for some people). 
     The letter 'e' used for the 'ey' sound is consistent with such usage in other languages, as well as English in the musical notation 're'. 
     The letter 'i' for the 'iy' or 'ee' sound is also so consistent, used too in those notes as 'ti'/ 
     The letter'k' used for the 'ch' or tch' (actally pronounced 'tsh') sound is also consistent with such other language use. (And looks the part - partly 't', 'c' and 'h'.) 
     The letter 'o' is commonly used in English for the 'ow' sound ('go'). The 'o' for 'oy' or 'oi' in 'oil' is pronounced 'ohl' by many American southerners (without the 'y' or 'i' sound).

     The letter 'q' provides a means of identifying the separate 'ng', ngg', 'ngk' sounds. (Also looking the part - similar to 'g'.) 
     The letter 's' is used for the 'z' sound in far more words than the letter 'z' itself also. 
     The letters 'th' in 'thanks' is said 't' for 'tanks' by many New Yorkers. 
     The letter 'u' is used in English for the four examples shown. 
     The letter 'z' for the 'sh' and 'zh' sounds are consistent with the use of 's' above.  mozn moSn
     The use of  '  for the 'schwa' sound is common in English contractions (you're). 
     Thus the many sounds of English can be reduced to the 26 above and still be understood by most users. This is far less than the other major languages of the World (even
 Spanish) and most minor. 
     However these can be still differentiated by use of the clarified digraphs, if and whereabsolutely necessary. Iqliz 1 therefore has one basic rule: to spell each word as it
 basically sounds. (Those which can't be, such as names, should use a different type - bold, italicized, etc.) 

 Steve - What do you think of the above
 

 

• Click here to see another side by side comparisons of alternate orthographies. 

6 LONG Vowels: a:, e:, i:, o:, u:, @:. (o: = awe   @ = er) The early green grass grew fairly tall.      @:       i:       a:      u:     e:    o:  [',   ee or y,  a or aa,  u,  eir,  aw ] Dx Rli grjn graas gruu feeli tool.  Th 'rly gri:n gra:s gru fe:rly to:l  Dhu urly green gras gru ferly tcl  xh Rli grEn grqs gru ferli (fArli) tol.	(TO) (IanSpel | SaundSpel)  (New Follick - NFc) (Spel Wel) (Double Check)
6 SHORT Vowels: a/cut, e/pet, i/pit, o/pot, u/put, a/pat  I put the cat up in a copper kettle (copr ketl).  Ai put dx kat ap in a kopc ketl.  `I pu't th' kat up in a' kop'r ketl  Cy put dhu kat up in u kcpr ketl I pu.t xh kat u'p in a' kqpR ketl.	(TO (cut)) (IanSpel) (New Follick) (Spel Wel) (Double Check)
6 DIPHTHONGS: ai, ei, oi, au, iu, ou  I say, new boy, go out!  Ai sei, niu boi, gou aut!  I SA, NU BQ, GX mT!  `I sei nu boi, go' aut.  cy sey, nu bcy, go aot!    I sA nU boi, gO aut.	(Cut Spelng) (IanSpel)    (ANJeL)  (New Follick Euro) (Spel Wel)   (Dbl Chek)

Schwa (an obscure central vowel) not shown

IPA: au=out, how,   c (rev.) or > = ah,    >: = o = awe,    ou = owe

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Notes

1. With an augmented alphabet one could afford to use the near redundant o as a separate sound sign. ANJeL augments the available number of character forms by using the upper case letters as new sound signs rather than redundant sound signs.

2. Those in the IPA-EuroSpel camp would also find fault with the frequent use of y for /ai/. The y originated as a Greek adaptation of the Semitic symbol for iod (yod) so there is a connection between the sound signs: y and i. However, the sound of i was associated with a high front vowel: /ih/ or /ee/ -- not /ai/. NF finally adopted this CS convention because it works with TO and because it is an abbreviation for `i. <ai>. .

3. Unlyk TO, Nu Folik duz not r'v'rs th  [a] and th  [o].       RIVERS| riv'rz   REVERSE | r'v'rs RiVrz, RiVrs

4. UNi - xu TC RiVrz RiVrs KorS aT tiS PQT.      Xa' tu rivrz rivrs kors a.t xis point.

5. Inverted unIspl - Xu tu rivrz rivrs kors at Xis pQt.

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